Then they came down and did something about it. I dont know why a person would think otherwise. [I have seen no evidence that Mike Stroud has done this he has bent over backwards to indicate his public support of church leaders, both general and local.] Thank you Mary Ann. I was at the meeting where Mike told the guy to not be afraid of deceit. Apparently, some tried it and did not have a good experience. Some of the garbage they sell slays me. I havent listened to any of his podcasts, but it seems to me that personal revelarion is just that: personal. Many near death experiences when put into a book get embellished but I have no doubt he had some sort of experience to be able to express what he did. Thats like at Christmas when your children tell you their wish list. Stroud that he has been excommunicated and called an apostate, and is so harshly judged by so many. There was also no reason to test the spirits as the author accuses. who have extraordinary experiences with God.. Authors reaction: The whole thing is very good, but if you're in a hurry scroll over to 22 minutes. They used fear all throughout this doc hoping to convince the reader that Mike Stroud is some kind of boogie man. Rush was the first LDS scholar to accurately decipher the prophetic writings of Ezra now known as Ezras Eagle. This may all blow over soon which would be nice. With this we can rid ourselves of all fear and ridicule of others and have confidence that we are taking the right path. [Nope.] Moroni 7 :35-37 It is the doctrine that converts. God gave unto Zion (his church) a weapon against this, personal revelation through the Gift of the Holy Ghost. Those persons are generally under a commandment to impart to the world only those stories that are appointed to be public. When youre old you can wear purple and think outside the big box occasionally, and when you do, sometimes wondrous things happen. That by itself, of course, wouldnt make such an instruction appropriate, but it would authorize an excommunication for Mormon-speak apostacy. My view was that Brother Strouds longtime service in the Church Educational System (27 years as a seminary teacher) gave him significant institutional credibility, but he was pushing more fringe teachings of latter-day gnostics (like Denver Snuffer) and end-times visionaries (like Spencer from the book Visions of Glory). Fear of being deceived effectively stops you. For a man constantly texting, he can cease communicating for days on end at the drop of a hat, then resurface as if nothing's happened, leaving some frustrated friends to ponder what they see as a lack of stability. Hierarchies of Spiritually Advanced or not so much of called vs chosen, or noble and great ones. Most in the church know little about this topic and Im not too thrilled about even commenting on it but the author did accuse of it so a response is warranted. Irony of ironies! However, this is not the case at all. Mike Stroud may have bore testimony of the church and the Brethren in one breath but in the next he bore testimony of the fact that their job is only one of a preparatory role. With the Come Follow Me program we are asked to have discussions instead of lessons. I have been very excited to hear the encouragement by our Prophet Russell M Nielson to seek after a relationship with the Lord, to gain power in the priesthood, to hear President Eyering encourage us to be like Enoch to call down the powers of heaven, to stop armies. God has made our spirits a very tight fit with our bodies for the duration of mortality. Video art by Michael Rush ( Book ) 50 editions published between 2002 and 2007 in 3 languages and held by 1,713 WorldCat member libraries worldwide. I think Ill just stick to Fair Mormon et al. Harold b Lee was in attendance once and powerful spiritual manifestations were received. What a dilemma! I quite like Michael Rush. I do spend 30-60-and more minutes every day in prayer. And trust and hope wanes., Indeed they do, it does. But without love you wont probably care, and if you care, it is because of love. All I can say is in the end it will all work out. This document was basically their attempt to establish that. And the whole time they dont realize the illusion that they are creating. Enter your email address to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. I have a doubt I do anything out of love, I do things because I care. Check out the latest breaking news videos and viral videos covering showbiz, sport, fashion, technology, and more from the Daily Mail and Mail on Sunday. That is the only dominion that can bring about eternal life. And it the eyes of some, they may very well have pulled it off. If suggesting asking for Nephi et al to come visit, so-to-speak, is a bit peculiar, (and I grant that it is) Ive come to think, well, who am I to say Nephi is too busy? Michael is a top 10 best selling author in his respective genre. So, I have learned to just not worry about this so-called extreme gospel. Michael also answers to Michael B Rush, Michael Brando Rush and Michael Brandon Rush, and perhaps a couple of other names. In June, she elaborated on the process of President Nelson writing impressions down on a yellow note pad and how she has been prompted at times to leave the room. No one does religious extremism better than Mormons! Should they ignore the 5-7 years of hell and miraculous recovery they endured/obvserved trying to follow previous revelation that produced "good fruit", roll the dice, and basically tell the Lord, "I didn't learn a thing last time! So instead of making real spiritual progress, they substitute it by comparing themselves to others or worse, by putting others down. Related To Shirley Rush. Of course, I get all those things. This website is designed to be a secure portal for interested parties to learn more about Michael's research, as well as providing more advantageous purchasing options for his books and audio books. But I didnt feel a particularly good spirit while reading their doc. All throughout the Scriptures we have stories of mostly men, extraordinary men, who have extraordinary experiences with God. During his interview with DeFede,. It didnt end until some wiser and higher up authorities put a stop to it. | Jan 1, 2002. Brother Sky, I agree its a very fine line. Such drug usage stands in sharp contrast to his love of studying the Book of Mormon, earning him a reputation among his friends as a scriptorian. He says he became a man obsessed only with learning about faith, not following. Public Transport Seville Airport To City, Im just saying this is how Ive heard him. I found it rather amusing when Kimberly suggested that perhaps Mary Ann has a devil because she eerily posted something that Kim did not agree with. Now after getting someone excommunicated and probably getting another podcaster taken down, they are also developing an appetite for it. Somethings been gnawing at me as Ive listened to Strouds podcasts during the last week or so. It also hinders our ability to love. I think others have heard him quite differently. by Trucker August 20th, 2021, 11:33 am, Post Many complained of demon possession and having false spirits torment them for months after doing as Mike Stroud suggested. There was a nice girl in one of his classes who was popular, very spiritual and had a very kind heart. I also enjoy hearing of other members spiritual experiences and sharing what has helped them grow and learn. Clay Critter Dc, Teachers of light simply do not use fear as a teaching method. Since then there have been tens of thousands of articles, blogs, posts, and books that have been written based upon Michaels original work.In addition to A Remnant Shall Return, Michael has written two other ground breaking books Daniel 11 and Revelation The Vision of John the Divine. The Lord warned us this would be a problem in the last days. There has been a shift. This is the bottom slider area. The follow are some but not all the subjects that were brought up in the doc. They are trained to be smarter, tactically superior and technologically advantaged - Melbourne's answer for a cutting edge trend in policing worldwide. by Trucker August 20th, 2021, 5:03 am, Post The superficial milk seeking, moralistic therapeutic diesism found in the minds of those like yourself have changed the way we teach the doctrines of the gospel over the course of my life and I am greatly disappointed by your ilk. Marriner Eccles. Anything God wants you to know is either (1) already in scripture or (2) told direct to your mind. If youre going to make extraordinary truth claims and claims about revelations, visions, etc., youre going to look a bit foolish when you say something like, oh, well these people all had visions and those were real, but these people having visions are making false claims or deceived by Satan or whatever. Donald Trump & the Davos connection. Benson ruined their marriage, or Boyd K. Packer, or other leaders who taught something(s) one spouse embraced so extremelyBUT WAS NOT MEANT IN THE EXTREMEthat marriages fell apart. The BYU honor code itself was the result of a conservative change, so changes to restore some of the status quo ante are hardly progressive. In my experience it seems the overarching need/message is one of moral superiority and a need to achieve or get a manifestation of some sort that ultimately seems to serve to prove ones elect-ness as if that were the purpose of life. What am I going to do about it? Authors reaction: This man is willfully ignorant and a deceiver. I would not normally say this but least someone think of me as an apostate I have served as a member of multiple bishopricsfor 12 years ,8 as bishop. but times have changed and if you interpret the scriptures the way we have for eons you now find yourself exed for apostasy. These are our examples. When I was 15, I went to a youth conference where he spoke several times. Rush had been residing in Dallas County, Texas . Where they went? Salt Lake City [Utah]: University of Utah Press, 2008. I also have listened to all of Mikes podcasts multiple times and have learned a great deal from them. But this doesnt seem to matter to the author. (It even had my 2017 W&T post on Mike Stroud.) I have a dear friend who started hearing voices and seeing people. There it is dude, black and white, my permission to explore the mysteries of God. It was inappropriate for me to teach that that the Church of Latter-day Saints is Aaronic in nature and preparatory to the Melchizedek priesthood institution referred to in scripture as the Church of the Firstborn. Rush is the author of A Remnant Shall Return - 2020 Edition (4.76 avg rating, 79 ratings, 16 reviews), Eleven (4.62 avg rating, 8 ratings, 1 r. Home My Books And by the power of the Holy Ghost ye may know the truth of all things. There is a reason why Heavenly Father has given us this miraculous gift because there is small portions of truth found everywhere and absolute truth is only found in Christ. I sort of get what you are saying, but to say it you seem to strawman the actual church position (as I understand it to be). In a new Helps by Topic page, there is a link to False Revelation and Gospel Extremism. In that category, there are a couple scriptures, several talks by apostles, and even church history resources. Thats my kind, naturally . Then Samuel the Lamanite on the wall, andoh, oh, oh! Rush ultimately got his way. Conscience and Community: Sterling M. McMurrin, Obert C. Tanner, and Lowell L. Bennion. Mike Stroud is teaching all of these NEW and EXPERIMENTAL concepts that are NOT based on any scriptural truths or words of the Prophets. Michael Rush was married to Pamela B. Alfred Knopf, 1951. The author, on the other hand, rather likes using fear as a teaching tool. Watch any religion that does not offer this connection fade into oblivion before your very eyes. Many people seek dominion and amen to the priesthood of those men. No one in the church called them to write up that online doc. Steve you are WRONG. The doc posted is not just showing why they think Mike is wrong but also trying showing the rest of us how the gospel is properly taught. But its my understanding that he is appealing their ruling so well see how that goes. Even though many people have heard Gods voice, received instruction from God or various angels, they are usually instructed either by scripture or by inspiration to not publish such revelations. I look forward to the day when were all living in peace and harmony, of one heart and one mind. Comparison. Evan. I am a better disciple of Christ, and I have grown closer to him. Now, the church excommunicates someone who teaches that these stories are to be applied to us, each of us, equals, loved equally?. And yet the excommunications continue. Its mostly just a lot of fluff with not much meat to satisfy the arguments. What a political correctness faith we have become. The accusations continued and got worse more and more people were getting tried and executed as witches. That America was prophecied 2600 years ago and it's fate was already chosen. I was very saddened to learn of Mike Strouds excommunication, but why was his wife also excommunicated? And then Christ goes and talks about all being one , and that eternal life is to KNOW HIM in John 17. I also have a husband that is very nervous that I listen to podcasts by people who are on the extreme edge. Michael, nice comments. Here we have the author making another conclusion that leaves you wondering where in the world it came from. The podcast that I finally had to do research on and finally just Googled his name was the one on Familiar Spirits. He gives exact quotes and where they can be found down to the page number. what appears to me as the obvious needed direction moving towards more moderate/liberal views on these issues. Learn how your comment data is processed. I think part of the disconnect here is what constitutes a moderate/liberal/progressive change. If these teachings are wrong, then God is dead and so is his church. Monthly Newsletter | Book Reviews | Contact Author, Free Chapters | Free Audiobooks | Free eBooks | Free Videos | Free Tools, Click on The Product You Would Like Below, Book Review:A Remnant Shall Return- byMichael B Rush, Free Download- See the Analyzed Differences Between The Last Days Timeline and A Remnant Shall Return - Click Here. Retrieved June 10, 2018. Thanks for the write up. Alas, it is so widespread that to fill the roles in a typical ward one might have to dig into the barrel and choose some people that ought not to be chosen. BofM is true and thats good enough for to move forward. Michael is the the author of three books, A Remnant Shall Return, Daniel 11, and Revelation - The Vision of John the Divine. I had many questions and nobody to ask. Rush (Ezra's Eagle) and the FP Covid Statement, Re: Michael B. (Myers) Rush on December 22, 1981 in Dallas County, Texas and they separated on July 5, 1984. Lets see in the BOM alone we have Lehi witnessing a pillar of fire vision that left him exhausted; Nephi being taken up to a high miountain and shown the history of the world; Abinadi being prompted to call out the priests of King Noah at the risk of death; King Benjamin being visited by an angel, Alma the Youngers theophany that left him near death, not to mention those of Limhi and other Lamanite converts. Instead, its based on separation and comparison in how their abilities measure up to the abilities of others. scootd28 asks If were not supposed to strive for these things, then what are the stories for?. Rush (Ezra's Eagle) and the FP Covid Statement by h_p Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:43 am Many of you might be familiar with this guy, he's the guy who's been quite prolific about the Ezra's Eagle prophecy. 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