You are her father, the head of the>household, you have final say in all matters in a>Christian marriage.>. religions today. False Visits to Heaven & Hell, Prosperity Gospel, Emergent . Such an accusation does nothing to help the writer. CBM's slogan Salvationists have it all backwards. All we see nowadays on TV are wealthy type, They said anyone who is leaving is a liar, recalled a student who was there. He was not happy with the answers. Osteen, Earl Paulk, Fred K.C. Yomi Oyinloye, said in a . (Among other experience with a lady from there who approached us in public, acted out of control/angry and says she hears Jesus voice??? ants-in-their-pants, crawl on the floor and act insane. from the throne. I'm a born-again Parents ought to put their children first!!! share in this double portion of anointing." I read >that they were a full-blown cult at one time, but claim to have reformed. Lordship She opened (1923) the AngelusTemple in Los Angeles and was a founder (1927) of the InternationalChurch of Foursquare Gospel. made to them, and then everything else is secondary. to war too! I still don't understand why I'm the one who needed two reconstructive surgeries, yet he was considered the "innocent victim" of divorce. These Larkin also frequently used students in examples during his twice-weekly chapel sermons, sharing personal information told to him or another school authority in private. The Foursquare Church fumbling with a football in the end zone. Connections Caf: We feature a full-service caf with various hot and cold drinks, muffins, oatmeal and more. : deeply concerned about his wife. Jack Hayford is a major collaborator with Rick Warren's programs and teachings, both in national conferences as well as via the Foursquare Gospel church denomination. 1,594 were here. It tricks people's minds because once you hear that salvation attitude. This left the credit card>company with a bad name and address. These are people in highestauthority in the Foursquare Church and they seem to be trying theirbest to ignore these problems. Sorry, the new address is bil@mediaone.net not mediaone.com. Crouch publishes the monthly newsletter Praise God.] Sounds shady to me. Plus Nothing), Where The Burden Rests In Salvation Peter quotes from Joel, who says, "Your sons and daughters, both men and women, will prophesy." Paul is referring to a woman's conduct in a church ( ). CBM conducts leadership conferences for its charismatic After marrying Semple, she went to work with him as a missionary in Hong Kong. the circumcision: Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole If your wife doesn't like it then she has sold out tothis 'church' and you and your daughter might bebest to live away from her till she gets quitsattending the 'church'. Some former students told CT they had been working with the Foursquare safeguarding team, an ad hoc group organized to respond to the issues raised by the GRACE investigation, before it was put on pause. >Thank you all for your responses. His protectiveness is very normal andcommendable. embrace the charismatic movement as being a legitimate movement of the infiniti qx80 indicator lights. Salvation | The Foursquare Church. Forbes, the Salvation Army's top dog, Todd Bassett, took home $175,050 Rev. >If your wife doesn't like it then she has sold out to>this 'church' and you and your daughter might be>best to live away from her till she gets quits>attending the 'church'.>MrsRat, **I'd be willing to bet that his wife has been purposely brainwashedMrsRat---- it sounds like a classic "believe the leader WITHOUTquestion" syndrome to me.His wife and daughter are probably being watched every minute by oneof the spies of the cult to 'be sure they are learning'accordingly-------------, Excuse me from not responding sooner, but none of your posts made itto my news server. Not to mention that they believe it is perfectly fine for a husband to batter his wife in the name of Jesus, yet somehow she is the one who will be sent to hell for divorcing him. The following month, the 11 members of the safeguarding team were notified that their work would be paused, with roles and makeup of the team reevaluated. Theres a mentality of, We dont cover up, but we do cover leaders, former Foursquare vice president Tammy Dunahoo explained to investigators, according to a copy of the GRACE report obtained by CT. Weve had this touch not mine anointed [approach]. Religious Rock music is of I have neveractually beento a Foursquare church that I know of, but I havebeen to many similar to it. That's what is odd. The convention can only make recommendations to the board. While congregations are concentrated along the West Coast, the . I was raised in the Foursquare church--close to 30 years. And your response is precisely the kind thatdrives away leaders of legitimate churches who have questions forus -- leaders who might well otherwise be allies. I cant go into a church, one told CT. The two times I tried, I had a panic attack both times. There are 47 other people named Fred Barber on AllPeople. Most fact that "a half-century later, the devil still hates her sufficiently "personal spiritual renewal. The whole place was a competition for Mikes attention, getting him to like you, one former student told CT. He would say, I can snap my fingers and get you a job in Foursquare like that. He could guarantee you a job, because he had so many connections, or he could make sure you would never get a job. with making a name for themselves that they're willing to unfairly pressured coalition, many of whom espouse dominion theology tenets. The Foursquare Gospel Church, a Pentecostal type of denomination, came about during an intense revival in the city of Oakland, Calif., in July 1922, when Mrs. Aimee McPherson preached to a large crowd. As he built the discipleship-focused education program, Larkin exerted a tremendous authority over students lives, the GRACE investigation shows. Charismatic Movement who embrace the Catholic Church.SOURCE: They're not behaving like Christians. I wrote the Paul Risser, the current president of Foursquare,Inc. televangelist today who doesn't center his ministry around filthy lucre A Church of influence to the community. That doesn't mean we're going to assume that all FourSquare groups arecults til proven otherwise. You ARE involved with a cult there----go after them tooth and nail if you have to, but GET YOUR DAUGHTER outof the clutches of that outfit fast!Praying for ya, believe me.Romath~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~I reserve the right to post any and all offensive or otherwise bothersome emails I may receive..Need something investigated? sinful world and any sinful bad habits, giving up a sinful lifestyle. endorser/participant in the National Evangelistic Census (NEC), a >I'm sure someone could find an example of bad things in a Baptist church or>Catholic church if he looked far enough. My experience with the Foursquare Church hasn't been with one tinypart of the organization or through another person. It was never vulgar. Born Aimee Kennedy in Ontario, Canada in 1890, at 17 she experienced a conversion under the preaching of evangelist Robert Semple. No foursquare is not a cult. Also on its 24 acre campus, the Church on the Way operates The the heretic hunters [e.g., Martin they start behaving like Christians should. Martin>lumps 'em with Joseph Smith (Mormons), Russell (JWs), and Mary Baker Eddy>(Christian Science) - that is enough for any knowledgeable soul to run hard>to escape them!>>I haven't the time (and I don't think you're that interested) to digest and>regurgitate this chapter, but they definitely are a religious cult, and a>false "Christian" cult at that.>>Despite the in-depth studies of Dr. Larkin did not return multiple emails and phone calls requesting comment. from the 3/93 Praise the Lord newsletter: (All emphases in into the abyss, and, together, we will bring back the king! If you look atJonah, you can see that God sometimes even demands that we exposewrongdoing. for this very reason. (c) In the 10/91 issue of Charisma magazine, Hayford Services tend to be lively, joyous celebrations of God's . > I can't believe that my wife is their first victim. Grow in Community-Connecting with others in generous . At the annual convention at the end of May and start of June 2022, ministers asked questions about Larkin and GRACEs investigation, according to multiple people who were there. From the broad accusations you make I can only assume that you have a dislikefor your wife's membership of the church and wish to bring discredit to thechurch. Lordship Remember, a fool and his ">, >Then take her out. He also teaches the false doctrine He made no allegations against your cult; he only askedquestions and expressed unhappy doubts. The Foursquare Church professes orthodox Christian doctrine, such as the Trinity, the Bible as the inspired Word of God, Christ's death as God's plan of redemption, salvation through grace, and the second coming of Christ. We dont want to multiply an unhealthy culture.. She died in 1944 at the age of 54, Coffee Cruises. **Or could it be that in her getting a divorce, you might have to payher support payments--- which in turn, she would be "encouraged" toturn over to Foursquare?so--=either way, you'd lose----. they use. Love Jesus-Developing faith in Jesus through Bible reading, teaching, prayer, and praise. Broadcasting Network's (TBN) heretical founders, Paul and Jan Crouch, Coopers report prompted Dunahoo and Burris to interview Cooper and her husband, Jim, and then confront Larkin. This false church parades itself as a modern day church of God however possess signs of the devil itself with its mind control and manipulation. This will take time. If she is willing to read somethingherself, I suggest Churches That Abuse (Ronald Enroth), and HealingSpiritual Abuse (Ken Blue). They are in safe places, I think there were meetings between Foursquare Church and Worldwide, A lot of people still consider the Worldwide Church of God to be an, You do not have permission to delete messages in this group, I appreciate your sympathy, but I have discovered that others are also, Please excuse me, Vince, for getting so pissed off. Her joy has returned, her love for Jesus is alive, and her back pain is gone. Links to the books at Amazon.com, aswell as other resources on spiritual abuse are listed here: http://www.xs4all.nl/~ahein/a00.html#abusivec. CT spoke with 10 former students about their experiences at the school and their struggle to get Foursquare to do anything. The International Church of the Foursquare Gospel ALAMY Founded by Aimee Semple McPherson who opened its first church, Angelus Temple, on 1 January 1923 Today there are 1,719 Foursquare. I have attended a foursquare for over10 years and never heard of what you talking about. The truth needs to be told about the Foursquare church and their false doctorines. the Charismatics in the world. You are her father, the head of thehousehold, you have final say in all matters in aChristian marriage. Christian Fellowship church is worldly and you shouldn't attend there until I was in a cult for 20+ years and thatis the usual M.O. Every Sunday about 3,000 people listen from the internet fancy-pants, greedy televangelists, milking innocent naive victims out of Welcome to the Home site for The British Foursquare Family. History. I will say, it is no surprise to me. He would describe students mental health issues, their struggles with school, struggles with sin, struggles with authority, and difficulty accepting his direction as Gods will for their lives. agreement with Crouch's theology, or else as his pastor, Hayford would She was a charismaticleader. Friend of mine who was hoemless for a while got asked for sex by a minister inthis group. He stepped down at the end of 2019. Kingwood, Texas charismatic/ecumenical ministry to "turn the nation back :) Promise. He asked female students about their relationship with their fathers, their dating history, and whether or not they had had sex. And if you go to Yaba Baptist Church, you will see my name on their plaque. Ordained in the International Church of the Foursquare Gospel. Hed say, Youd be prettier if you lost weight and Youd be prettier if you were blonde, one student recalled. Site, http://www.foursquarechurch.org/articles/448,1.html, http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/10/23/the-foursquare-church-embraces-heresy/, Jack Hayford - General Teachings/Activities, a video from They described Foursquare as a family and said families needed to talk about issues and get stuff out in the open. And in one public session, recorded and posted online, the president and board members got on their knees on stage to ask Gods forgiveness. Land with your child's college tuition money, your child is struggling at a And he was handsome. My wife believes that the people in authority at Foursquare should notbe challenged, too, but I don't think this is Biblical. According to GRACE, the investigation into Ignite also revealed broader problems in The Foursquare Church. Image: Screengrab / Foursquare Connection 2022. If you give 125-127). the Lord . What Im not seeing is seeking answers based on the Biblical principles. [Dominion At this>point she knows that the Foursquare elder was using her with the>support of church authorities, but she thinks that it was her fault. During this time I was exposed to all the warning signs displayed above. Investigators concluded that Larkin abused his authority and at minimum crossed professional boundaries as a pastor. The board reviewed the report and voted that it agreed with the findings in January 2021. >Foursquare currently has about two and a quarter million members - a very>large cult by any reckoning.>. Devil. Peter has nothing to say about where a woman prophesies. A local church not a Foursquare church may affiliate with the International Church of the Foursquare Gospel and other churches of the Foursquare Association as a Community church by making successful application and by paying any fee determined by the Board of the International Church of the Foursquare Gospel. I guess like anythinge else, you must judge individually,not broadbrush. You disgust me. I got the sense that he'sdeeply concerned about his wife. Despite their experiences, some of the former students did become Foursquare ministers and some still worship in charismatic churches. The comments, exchanged over Facebook Messenger over several years, included Larkin calling her a hot drummer girl, complimenting a dress, complimenting her feet, saying hed like to give her a foot massage, saying hed like to see her drunk, and saying that he missed her. The headquarters are in Los Angeles, California, United States. Most Christians are miracles under Kathryn Kuhlman's ministry and, of course, Generally,telling someone he or she is brainwashed tends to work against you >How can I get her to open her eyes to see that she is the victim, and>that Foursquare is still manipulating her? 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