I SWEAR she had it. The coldness is just stunning. Not only the people, but the backdrop to the story: middle class striving, cheap looking overpriced McMansion, Colorado oil country, an MLM scheme financially bleeding the couple, the killer husband's mistress, strife with the in-laws, posing on Instagram as if you've got life all figured out, showing off all the materialistic crap you charged on credit cards, etc. I thought this thread was entitled 'Let's talk about Shannan Watts' as an excuse to get back to talking about Chris? She shared every fucking thing on social media. I thanked LEONARD for his time. Suffering. A live stream of the service will be provided on the Boles Funeral Homes & Crematory Facebook Page. She alienated Chris from his friends. Chris Watts, 33, allegedly admitted to killing his wife, 34-year-old Shanann, and his daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. I bet those bitches have some stories to tell. Easy to say in retrospect I suppose. Chris Watts: Complete Cast of Characters | True Crime Rocket Science / #tcrs. Six days later, she was dead -- strangled at the hands of her own husband. R135, the timing of the name change seems to perfectly coincide with her fleeing from North Carolina and the Shan'annigens she had been involved in there. Joint for joint expenses, and yet have your own liquid accounts. [quote] Of course what Chris Watts did in murdering his family and especially his children was horrendously wrong. It reminds me of the wasteland between Gatsbys mansion and the City. LEONARD agreed to share my contact information with his wife for her to call, if she knew anything about SHANANN, possibly through Thrive.". And Leonard King said the same thing that it was virtually impossible to engage her in conversation. I think he did the world a favor by offing her. Shed go to his friends houses and make fun of them after, for being too small or not having proper china or their decor for being quaint (thats rich). They were large policies, $250k or $500k. Controlling and always right. How does he go from doing their hair every morning and making sure they had baths & snacks everyday (and reading them bedtime stories, etc.) The underlying issues can be difficult to fully define, and for some, may take several years/ repeat doctor visits. If you look at his fb page, shes still on his friends list. Two years to get the diagnosis she wanted. On August 10, the day after posting the doll picture, Shanann traveled to Scottsdale, Arizona for a work event. Shannan did indeed feed Bella and CeCe Thrive K. Heres an inspiring video with comments to tell you how wonderful it was. At the time of her death, Shanann Watts was 15 weeks pregnant with a baby boy she planned to name Niko. They filed for chapter 7 BK in 2015 too, same year as the Watts. But nonetheless I still feel Chris killed the children. It has helped me to put my thoughts in perspective because nothing else has. The discovery docs included an interview with the ex. Jesus. jim martin death couples massage class san diego beaver falls football shanann watts first marriage. In the August, 2018 video, Chris was was stunningly buff. R244, I firmly believe she was emotionally abusing and exploiting him. Maybe Shanann was exercising a little self-discipline and not buying dining room furniture till they could afford it?". LEONARD knew that SHANANN first worked with cell phones when he met her. The documentary pieced together the events . Fact: Court documents listed Shanann as a co-owner of Dirty South. A big fat scene to get away from the MIL, complete with an ultimatum. They filed for bankruptcy due to do much debt they had. Oh yes. The 33-year-old pleaded guilty to killing his wife Shanann Watts and their children Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, in exchange for avoiding the death penalty as part of a plea deal. Because intferile people have three pregnancies in a five-year span. Maybe if he'd convinced a judge that Shan'ann was a dishonest grifter he would have succeeded. This baby in my belly deserves his full love, she texted her friend, who had advised her to go through Chris phone for signs of infidelity. Re, R113's : "Maybe he didn't want to be full-time parent.". I truly hope a movie is made of her in an honest light. He was an employee of the Anadarko Petroleum, Woodlands, Texas. The Websleuths crazies who want to blame the victim come here. Please complete the process by verifying your email address. Shanann, who did direct sales for a multi-level marketing company that sold health supplements, was extremely active on Facebook, posting clients' weight-loss success stories as well as her photos from her own seemingly happy home life on a daily basis. John Forbes officiating. I also want to see her car model pictures too. "Last summer, Shanann and her daughters spent six weeks in North Carolina with her parents and brother before returning to the Frederick, Colorado, home she shared with Chris on Aug. 7. They had no children from their marriage together and have not communicated in over ten years he estimated. Had Chris had 30k of his own liquid funds for the divorce and post-divorce actions, he couldve gotten primary physical custody of his kids, since Shannan wouldve no doubt engaged in parental alienation, factitious disorder by proxy, and financial disaster. It's very hard to lie your way through a mortgage loan process. She was our pride and joy, a true gift from God. etc. He was sentenced Monday to. Its endlessly fascinating. Sister of Private. The husband looks hot, she's not, R3, whoever she is. R30, were you shilling that onesie on the old Topix forum? Mother of Bella Marie Watts; Celeste Cathryn Watts and Nico Lee Watts He later admitted to killing their daughters, four-year-old Bella and three-year-old Celeste, by smothering them with a blanket over their heads. We are changing the login scheme for contributors for simpler login and to better support using multiple devices. American Murder: The Family Next Door focuses on the 2018 disappearance of Shanann Watts and her two young . ^^ he would excuse her cunty behavior by saying she was having a bad day but it happened all the time. Its crazy & I just dont understand it. Shanann and her two daughters, Bella and Celeste, were reported missing on August 13, 2018 in Frederick, Colorado. She wanted the large house. This gal always lived on the financial edge. I just dont get the callousness towards the girls. Over a similar if slightly shorter span of time, Chris Watts moved 7 times, averaging about a move per year. She was a miserable user. Interview with Leonard King, Shan'ann Watts' Ex-Husband [47th Tranche] | TRUE CRIME ROCKET SCIENCE W Wanda Sweitzer 41 followers More information Interview with Leonard King, Shan'ann Watts' Ex-Husband [47th Tranche] | TRUE CRIME ROCKET SCIENCE Book Series Covers Science Today Moving In Together Baby Hospital Rocket Science 100 Book Shanann Watts, 34, posted the photo of the shrouded doll on August 9, days before police say she and her daughtersCeleste, three, and Bella, four, were killed in their Frederick, Colorado home, on the northern outskirts of Denver. R162: A woman with a job equals whore in your world. Learn the difference. Thank you Dr. Van De Leek for your enlightament, You have even managed to make it readable and easy to read. [post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Please click here to get full access and no ads for $1.99 or less per month. Excellent observation, R228. He just doesnt. That poster has a strange definition for cuter.. Maybe thats how she could afford to get manicures while their finances were in the shitter. At least we know they have each others back.'. Perhaps Chris thought that as well. R39 / r40, can you imagine Shanann hiking? She would have moved back to NC, had her parents look after the kids, gotten a regular ole job and not have been too happy. Quiet people may appear calm but Chris was not quiet inside. It looks like they plopped a development in the middle of nowhere. Not that he should have killed them, but she was a cunt to him and then when she realized he wasnt going to take it anymore, she backpedaled furiously. R143: She didnt change her name. RELATED:. Chris was a real bore, apparently. I would love to have a conjugal visit Chris Watts! Identity is an interesting thing. But wasnt he eligible for the GI Bill hmmmmm? It makes the story a little more interesting, that she wasn't the perfect victim. How did they pay off the $400k debt? She's the murdered frau of Chris Watts, who also killed their two tots. I think if Shan'ann had lived she would have ended up being another Dee Dee Blanchard. There is never a good enough reason to do what he did. Why are some posters feel the need to say that the toddlers are "ugly". No, not at all R256. I remember she mentioned in her video discussing this time period she portrayed herself as a hard worker that put him through school. The community of Frederick, Colorado and the entire nation was horrified when Chris killed his entire family in August 2018. "ACTION TAKEN: CBI Agent GALBRAITH interviewed LEONARD KING by phone on 08/15/2018. - they owed. Why? I just dont get that at all. Some features on this site require a subscription. patches and has fibromyalgia and once walked past a man who was later discovered to wear women's underwear. Your latest Netflix obsession has arrived. My partner's half sister is like this. On August 13, 2018, Chris strangled Shanann in their Colorado home. Dont get me started on this grifty broad. That's idiotic R70. $150,000 equity would have been swallowed up by realtor fees leaving the two of them not much. The mother seemed to know or assume that her two daughters had staged the creepy dead doll, writing around 2.30pm: 'At least they covered the body together. Shanann Watts, 34, and her two children Bella, 3, and. In response to comments on the post, Shanann said that it was a '3 foot doll' that had been wrapped in 'their twister tarp thing'. Thank you all for this thread. her husband texted back in June when she sent him a photo of her ultrasound picture, according to a screengrab she posted on Facebook. If you had to list her good points, she had a social life. He's remarried with children; and also suffered the devastating loss of his younger brother in 2016. R150 But she was. She was 25. How she loved and cherished her. By Amy Mackelden Published: Oct 5, 2020. He had heard about the case in which SHANANN and her children were missing. For anyone who hasn't read it here's his CBI interview copied/pasted directly from the Discovery: CBI Agent GALBRAITH interviewed LEONARD KING by phone on 08/15/2018. Look up the Anadarko explosion that occurred at battery in Mead, CO, about 20 miles from Cervi 319, the battery Chris Watts buried his wife at, and at which he dumped his daughters bodies into tanks. i saw a video where Shanann was making protein snacks with that thrive shit and said they were for the whole family to eat. Just the fact that she texted a friend, mulling about where to move should they divorce, (but not NC for some reason) tells me she was used to getting her own way. The FBI agents are being complimented as ingenius interrogators, but their smarminess is also cringeworthy. Text and recorded audio files were released by Colorado officials Thursday after an in-prison interview with Chris Watts. It was all so odd. But Chris was already involved in an affair: He had become intimate with an unwitting co-worker who believed he was getting a divorce from his wife. And Chris shouldve bolted before, or right after, that ridiculous 2015 BK, where it was largely due to his wifes spending and the fact that she quit her real job. It's 2:50 am and I can't sleep. Interesting he says when things were not going well in their relationship, thats when she poured herself into work, out late, not coming home at all etc. He learned of this case from social media and news. In the early hours of August 13, 2018, in Frederick, Colorado, American oil field operator Christopher Lee Watts (born May 16, 1985) murdered his pregnant wife Shanann (34) by strangulation, and their two children Bella (4) and Celeste (3) by smothering them. However, she fell oddly silent after the post on August 9 at around 11.46pm, which showed the plastic doll lying shrouded on a leather loveseat. In the last 10 years of Shan'ann's life, between October 2002 and January 2012, she appears to have moved an astonishing 20 times. Shanann was running another scam, Im positive. LEONARDs current wife, dabbled in Thrive, which was the same employment as SHANANN WATTS. The only thing Chris thought about when he snuffed them out, was his personal freedom as a newly buff beefcake to fuck Nicole Kessinger as well as other women (come on, he didn't just do this for HER only), and enjoy keeping his income for himself and his own pleasures. what happens to all their debt now? (not sure if that is accurate). Shanann and Christopher "The Murderer" Watts. Her friend tried to soothe her, to no avail. I like it - two snarky, bitchy Englishwomen can be quite entertaining. His facial expressions reveal that he's more complex than that. Its the underlying current of this entire tragedy. I could see there being an inexplicable level of anger there that could explode inside Chris & make him snapand be crazy & cold as fuck with her, but two scared little girls? Yes indeed, we too use "cookies." A concerned friend contacted law enforcement after learning of the murders of Shanann Watts and her two young daughter, relaying an unsettling anecdote Shanann had shared with her just weeks before she was killed. Maybe I will become Jesus. She has a few anecdotes that ring true to me, but I wouldnt vouch for her absolute truthfulness. She did everything to come across as the perfect, crunchy-earthy, cool progressive lesbian mom. Selling prescription meds? I wrote that R420 post on the last thread, out of ballistic anger at how this confidence woman (conwoman) is getting canonized on other forums. I spoke with LEONARD KING ( ) by phone on 08/15/2018 at 1427 hours. She left home again to attend a quick work trip on Aug. 10, returning home just before 2 a.m. on Aug. 13. No matter what most people do not resort to killing. Shanann's ex husband Leonard King say's "it was virtually impossible to engage with her" Murder Mysteries 2.8K subscribers Subscribe 7.9K views 4 years ago Shanann's ex husband found. The family of a pregnant Colorado woman who was murdered by her husband paid tribute to her and said she was 'born to be a mother' at her joint funeral with her two daughters and unborn son. THIS IS TOTAL LEFT FIELD.. She was determined to stay healthy and with her love for her Celeste, every moment with her was a blessing. Has everyone already forgotten the sub prime mortgage explosion of the early 2000s? I think if Shannan had lived she would have continued with her hypochondria, her over-spending, her delusional thinking, and would have made her children neurotic messes. KILLER dad Chris Watts revealed grisly details of his pregnant wife's murder in a bombshell prison letter, according to reports. Because how dare murdered, discarded toddlers not be beautiful. Being fascinated by all this doesn't mean we want to FREE CHRIS or Shan'ann DESERVED TO DIE, let alone the two innocents. I knowMARY! Have you forgotten what he did to her and his own children? On social media, the couple seemed like they had a perfect marriage. I think Celeste was adorable. Banks have a duty to keep you from insolvency when you buy a house. . His brother's widow (Arie) spoke to an NBC affiliate station in NC that she was "sick over it" and that it was "heartbreaking." Even with a high-interest, low-limit card available to bankrupt consumers, they wouldnt be able to afford the airfares to NC for their summer trip! R218: Consider yourself lucky. Its clear the NC house layout was inspiration to the CO home that was customized. Even her own mother admitted she shopped around until she got the correct diagnosis. Chris is a total hottie, Shanan was a a lucky gal. 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