Lemele's castle Receive the crystal from King Lemele. I'm heading there right now. Now you can't use it OUTSIDE of battle, and of course you can't defeat your enemies with that alone, but yes, the game actually gives you FREE HEALING, which is why I said that the ability to survive fights is FAR more important than healing spells in my OP. Follow it's direction. After these five years, I'm quite used to having you around. This right here is one of the biggest "screw you's" in the localization, because you know what? From StrategyWiki, the video game walkthrough and strategy guide wiki, https://strategywiki.org/w/index.php?title=The_7th_Saga&oldid=935304. Let's move on to the actual character build. This right here is how much damage Kamil and Olvan take from the Wyvern And this is how much Lux and Wilme take Yeahkind of hard to overstate just how much of a disadvantage Kamil and Olvan are at compared to everyone else, isn't it? Also keep in mind that, despite the vastly different personalities of the apprentices, there is almost no unique dialogue between them all, so if you're hoping to get entertaining comments with say, Lux, that the others won't get, well, prepare to be disappointed. You are truly a great warrior! He hit several enemies for over 1000 . Well, there's also a problem with that, because while that's an extra man to help you out, Experience is split in half between your two members. Kamil: If so, then I will have to give up the idea. To help you guys do that, I am going to be listing the characters in order of who helps beat the game the quickest, so the top character is the fastest, and the bottom character is the slowest. HPCatcher has it's own special formula. If Romus was Killed Without Whistle: Thank you. Anyways, here's the exit, andwelljust watch, because nothing I say can do this justice Don't you just love it when a soundtrack completely changes in style and mood from one moment to the next? Anyways, the takeaway from this formula is that for every point of attack you get is one more point of damage you'll be doing to your enemies, every two points of Guard you get is one more point of damage you'll be shaving off of enemy attacks, and that should your opponents TotalDefense ever be so high as to reduce your Damage to 1 or below, then you'll be able to do more damage by a Defend-Attack combo rather than just plain ol' Attack. Valsu: How am I? Yes, that's it! Of course, getting them to join will become trickier as you go further into the game, as once you get to either the next town or the town after that, they will start moving around the list of towns anywhere from 4-11 fights after the game assigns them a location (and that's not me guesstimating, the game is just random like that). Can't say I know why the "do you want to take this?" This way, your HP will temporarily increase. You're going to want to save B.Protects for the Cave when you can, but this Manrot/Android group and several others are likely to kill you without it. This forum is telling me "you are not allowed to use this image extension" without actually telling me what the offending "image extension" is. The experience you gained then will pay off. What this means is that, should you recruit any of them at Level 20, they're have 10 more points in every stat than they would normally have, and at Level 30, 30 more points in every stat, and so on and so forthand there's at least one mandatory apprentice fight in this game, and two if you're unlucky or inexperienced enough.now are you starting to see the problem with this? I'll be looking forward. Except, that's going to be slightly postponed, because apparently this guy is like, the most awesome, Sean Connery-esque figure ever. And I will be the greatest LPer once I complete this really hard game. Well, fortunately we have B.Protects, however, even if we aren't killed in one hit, we're still forced to use a Potion 2 every time this guy hits, so what are we to do? Well, let's just say that the Mission Success theme is a very appropriate theme here, because we are practically up to our necks in treasure here, including this thing! If Lux: You are a Tetujin! EDIT: In case you guys are confused, or just want to see the game, unedited, here's the raw video that I got most of my screenshots from And so, to my relief, we're saddled with Esuna! Take care of yourself. Well, in addition to everything I mentioned in the opening post, there's also going to be a Rune we'll be getting next update that, in battle, can be used an infinite amount of times to heal 50-69 HP, every turn, FOR NO COST WHATSOEVER! Olvan: Hampered by his size and old age, Olvan is nevertheless a battle hardened warrior filled with dreams and aspirations. Whether this was by accident or not (monster stats are hard to screw up, but the Elnard levels could have been a piece of data mistakenly deleted while other data was being shifted around), it ended up making the game far harder than it was intended to be even so, I still don't believe it's that bad. Even though he doesn't have huge HP or armor selection, he does have high speed for lots of evasion. I've always wanted to meet one! People believe it disappeared into the bottom of the ocean, to the west. "Pison" is somewhat clinical, since the Japanese name seems like a badass name for a bounty hunter in a Western - it's probably intended to be. Wilme (the fire guy) is also alright, albeit a bit bland. In any case, when greatly simplified, the damage looks like this Damage = (TotalAttack - (TotalDefense / 2)) * (Random number between 0.75-1.25). After that, we head to the Inn here and save in order to make sure we get a 3 or 4 point bonus out of this Pr Seed. Gain: I'm Gain. I wanted to ask you to join me. I talk too much. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Because in addition to being able to heal ALL of his HP with Heal 1, he can also halve your Guard with this, Defense 2. No really, everything about this conversation just cracks me up, from the matter-of-fact way R-Pison pronounces his name change, to what one guy described as "the blithe way the game just pulls a fight out of thin air and expects you to roll with it". Upload or insert images from URL. Still, getting both of them buffed with that is your number 1 priority for the first turn And then here's where Valsu really helps out. I'll be a millionaire when I find Melenam. So that's three themes already, and soon, we'll be listening to the fourth, but for now, a little bit on something I think is fairly important. Because aside from being heartbreaking, this is some pretty graphic stuff considering the time period. Their Power is high enough that even single ones warrant a B. Basically, the jewels act as a portable banking system, which means no need to worry about losing half your money when dieing! I've heard that the Seven Runes give immense power to their finder. Now we have many people visiting from the continent. So after buying this and as many Potion 1's as I could buy And yes, that's WITH a B. When I get the Runes, I'll be more powerful than King Lemele. Game Genie. Are you also looking for something called a Rune? However, going this route for almost everything past this route is inefficient and slow so, after beating R-Pison back down to where an ICE2 can kill him, Valsu will unfortunately have to go. Characters. Before Melenam: Will you buy me a Topaz when you find the treasure of Melenam? Anyways, we grind between Castle Aran and the Cave of Earth since the enemies at Aran, AT BEST, only give 2 EXP more than the Wyverns and Demons, so obviously this is a much faster place to level. Instead they just go up 1 to 4 points regardless of what level you are gaining. It may have suffered a bit in translation, but I still don't think even this version deserves the bad rap it's gotten over the years, and frankly, I'm not really satisfied with either the inefficient strategies or the generally negative tone present on the Something Awful Archive. And yes, you actually DO lose a Topaz, so that's another beginner's trap to be wary of. And now with Romus out of the picture, all the monsters disappear from the castle, meaning that we can now get those chests that we had to skip before! In exchange, Olvan learns his attack spells earlier and has superior melee power over Kamil. Once the game ends, it's something I'd like to come back to later on. Yeah of course the chracters are canon. Note: All images belong to Shouzou Kaga.. What kills him most of all however, at least in this version, is that even if you can look past all his weaknesses, his lowered stat growths means that he can't do much that Olvan cannot, making him totally obsolete. How boosts were supposed to increase by one for every stat every 10 levels? I have trouble enough, what with Romus and all. But after that, how about we check up on our old friend Gain? It's your turn this time and you will perish. Overview: Kamil is the "baseline" character of 7th Saga. Poison, which actually happens to be a spellthat costs 0 MPand hits your Guard rather than your Magicand is powered off of the user's Power instead of their magicand looks like a physical attackAnyways, in addition to hitting like a physical attack, it has a chance of inflicting the Poison stat on you that's influenced by how high your Magic is. I'm finding out that traveling alone is not so great. Now of course, I have no clue how the others got ahead of us considering they were in the throne room when we last saw them. You might be turned down or end up in a fight if you can't get along with each other. First published in 1866. we're kind of screwed, aren't we welp, may as well go treasure hunting. But who can we possibly get to guide us to this cave, when just about everyone else wants it as well? This edition was first published in 1877. 7th Saga even has orphaned lines with exposition. He may have been the 2nd best character in Elnard, but here, he is without a doubt, the worst character in the entire game. Now, do you remember that one guy, Gain, who flaked out on us and didn't give us that map? 7th Saga Complete Walkthrough. 30 items Best Games of 1993 Top contributors to this wiki. In Closing. Also, the game shows a rare example of time travel that can occur without the need for time paradoxes. So, after doing all that and restocking on everything except Mirror's (only the Despairs use them at this point), it's time to head off into another cave-like area, though it's linear enough that I don't feel a map is necessary. Oh man 7th Saga I remember I had this game for the SNES. I guess you will never make it. They're both very straightforward fighter-types. How about some extra Zellis flavor text available after our little trip? ATTRIBUTES: A lot like Kamil in stats except more towards strength rather than speed and magic. I'll be leaving this open for about a day before continuing (since this has already been started on three other boards). The game made innovative use of a radar system during gameplay. Powers, and then a Potion 2 before getting four Potion 1's. Of course, since we're Esuna, we won't be needing the P. Seed for a while, but the rest we can use! YMMV / The 7th Saga. And yes, that IS a critical hit up there, which for those not in the know, is what happens in an RPG when you get lucky and have your attack hit for more damage than normal (usually double the damage in this game). The International Animated Film Society, ASIFA-Hollywood, announced the winners of its 50th Annual Annie Awards on Saturday. In the Japanese version, all that happened when you opened this chest was that you got a Potion 2, without fighting anything at all, and there will be other instances of this as we go through the game. Protect, though that's about the maximum that Manrots will do, so, it's not as deadly as it seems. Not really sure why we didn't just join up to begin with, but, details details! Bubble Witch 3 Saga Pops Onto iPhone, Android. So this is what the new part of the continent looks like. You might want a companion. Lux: I NEED SOMEONE LIKE YOU TO HELP ME. I'm good with whatever you decide, enjoying the LP as it is. We absolutely loved the game and were very impressed with the performance of its Switch port, calling it "a great big celebration of everything Star Wars that's made the jump to Nintendo's console in surprisingly fine form" in our review. Why? Better watch out! Wilme Pelin is one of the playable characters in the classic SNES RPG The 7th Saga. Protect, they also have Fire1, and enough Magic to reliably survive Ice2's and dish out the pain with Fire1 (in fact, that can take off half the health of Lejes and Kamil. Anyways, let's get on with the intro shall we? Thank you for opening the gate. I'm stuck now because the Gate of Earth is closed. The 7th Saga is one such game. Esuna: You don't think I'm worth it, do you? The 7th Saga. Fortunately, these guys aren't very resistant to magic, so Esuna can easily OHKO them with Ice 2. In any case though, back to Lejes. And with that, we move on to the next part of the intro, with this awesome music! Pison, a bounty hunter, has been looking for you. Characters. Please go to the Cave of Earth in the Southwest and open the Gate of Earth. If you get lucky beating this thing, well, needless to say, money isn't going to be a concern for a long while, though with a Topaz, our revenues don't exceed the cost of beating this stupid thing by much. Now get ready for your journey and bring the Runes back. This game features seven different characters, each searching for the seven magical runes. EDIT: And just because I would feel bad for not posting MetalMiku's magnificent work in full Before making another message, I thought I'd make a point of taking whatever interesting tidbits about the game that the Something Awful forums posted, and posting it in the other forums I have this on. What we DO need though is use this shiny stone in the Tavern for spending on Potion 1 and 2's, and even Mirrors! That's not to say Bonro's other inhabitants are slouches either, because I cannot imagine the sheer level of manpower and combat mastery needed to survive stepping one foot out into the harsh overworld, or, for that matter, just defending a frontier town like this from the monsters and Androids lurking outside it's doors. You'd better not bother her. EDIT: There's a few places where the dialogue changes wording slightly when the PC is Esuna compared to others - that's because the original dialogue has the addresser using a female-specific pronoun, and the reference was excised in translation. Well, this is the Undead, and it will be our rival for this leg of the journey. It was a horrible thing to do. At any rate, this is our prize for defeating the Trick, a random jewel that has a 6% chance of being a Pearl (200G), a 56% chance of being a Topaz (500G), an 18% chance of being a Ruby (1,000G), a 12% chance of being a Saphire (2,500G), and a 6% chance of being an Emerald (5,000G). Many RPG's from the past expected you to grind at least a few levels before moving one foot from your home town, and in fact, even Elnard Wilme was required to grind out a level here before bending the early game over his kneethat being said though Battle in a World of Light (Overworld Battle Theme). So, here's the way this thread is going to be. But does that really justify using him despite his decidedly lackluster stat growths? When you choose a companion, look for a quality which will strengthen your weakness. Whatever the case, feel free to vote for whoever! The Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) films are a series of American superhero films produced by Marvel Studios based on characters that appear in publications by Marvel Comics.The MCU is the shared universe in which all of the films are set. I like Poison Tipped. So don't you worry about me, alright, Mistress Esuna? 10 Ways Bleach Is Worse When You're An Adult. His best quality, without a doubt, is his last ability: Elixer. But I thought, as a knight, that you were the best suited for this mission or something like that? You have a choice of seven going in: Kamil the human knight (supposedly well-rounded, but boring), Olvan the dwarf (stronger and slower than Kamil, slightly less boring), Esuna the elf (good magic), Valsu the priest (healing magic), Wilme the alien (unarmed, great strength, terrible magic), Lux the robot (great . Most other games like Dragon Warrior III would've been content simply with one or two really good Overworld themes, but this game has a grand total of four, and unlike the few exceptions to this rule, it isn't even for plot related reasons, it just has different themes for different parts of the world, which is why it's so effective for telling a story. Once I find the treasure, I'll make my son a King. People will look at you differently when you are more experienced. So if you want to know why Chimera's are so tough, well, there's your answer. Though I do have to say I got REALLY unlucky with this Blizzard1 (it's slightly weaker than ICE1, but I still should've been able to kill SOMETHING! Times are hard, and the fights are scary, and yet, you know that a life of regret is even worse. The player chooses one of seven playable characters, all of whom separately embark on a quest to locate seven magical runes. I'll give each of you a Crystal Ball. 5 The 7th Saga (30 to 60 hours) The 7th Saga is one of the toughest games on this list. Yes, some bosses will actually have extra dialogue that they'll say if you die Too bad most people will never actually see it because this is the damage he does after I use my B. You can say no to the man, whom you find in the Tavern at the upper right of this town Gain: You will need the Map later. So in case you haven't figured it out yet, yes, Lux is one of these "Tetujin", and none of them remember their past very clearly. Your journey will be much easier if you have it. Isn't it awesome? Try it. Right now! But is there really nothing else that anyone can offer us? Not only that, but they can also heal themselves with Heal 1 as well as HPCatcher. RELATED: 10 7th Heaven Actors Who Were Also On The Secret Life Of The American Teenager. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Surprised? I havent played many turn based rpgs but Im familiar enough to how it works, is there anything this game does super differently? In case you forgot, this is the Cave of Earth right here, just south of Rableskwhat will await us here? Best Dehya Weapon. Oh wonderful, don't tell me I actually spent SO LONG grinding that he actually got fed up waiting for me! Gain: I got it from a wizard during a journey. The 7th Saga (Renewed) $104.99 (1) Works and looks like new and backed by the Amazon Renewed Guarantee Product information Feedback Would you like to tell us about a lower price? In addition to being able a competent physical fighter due to his incredible weapon selection, he also learns Vacuum at a very early level (an instant kill spell), his Speed allows him to dodge and hit enemies reliably, and most of all, he learns the incredibly useful "F.Shield" (or "F.Shid" as the game calls it), which completely negates the next magic attack that hits him thisis simply GODLY. After a short break, Shouzou Kaga posted another Vestaria Saga update to his blog, showcasing status screens of 24 characters encountered up to the halfway point of the game.. The "Stat Gains Per Level" numbers are the numbers they usually get upon level up, though there is a 50% chance that said level up will give you one more point or one less in whatever stat is raised. Are you asking me who it was? This is a lot of experience at this point of the game, so the idea was that, rather than slowly digging our way to a high enough level to defeat Romus, we would instead kill him as soon as we could so we could get as strong as we could before having to grind, that way we wouldn't be spending nearly as much time and money resting at the Inn and restocking on MHerbs. Now, let's talk about the B. I can only imagine that this is just another typical day in the life of Gain, that is, when he's NOT traveling across the continent to Rablesk to attend to his bar, no doubt fighting Androids and Undead and tearing them apart with his bare fricken hands. Unfortunately however in THIS version, by lowering defense, stamina, AND speed, the designers have effectively held Kamil in a corner and beat him to death with the nerf stick. and start bumming for a partner. I DON"T REMEMBER CLEARLY. They are not interested in jewelry, and you can sell the jewels for their purchase price. Esuna: Sure, I'll be glad to help you out. That's all he's got Interestingly enough, he actually DOES have the Heal 2 spell, but it costs 18 MPand he's only got 15 MP, sonot really sure what they were going for there. I know how to enter but can't get close because of the monsters. The very fact that you're curious about anything means that there's something about it that fascinates you, that you yearn for knowledge, or something interests you. And in many of the games most dangerous fights, where powerful magic spells are being thrown every which way, his party's chances of survival increases substantially with F.Shid. Still not as jarring as certain episodes of Dragon Ball Z Kai (post-Yamamoto), but I find it endlessly amusing! Your journey will be easier with the map. These gains are not reduced for the player character's rivals, whose levels are based on the player character's, leading to practically unwinnable fights. Start with 62,708 gold by Galoob. So instead of recruiting a partner right now, my plan is to get a partner for a particularly tough boss coming up, leave that partner dead, through a good chunk of the game, then swap him out for another partner so that once THAT partner comes, we'll both be at higher levels because of that. So with that fight out of the way, the cave itself is very straightforward and easy, as you won't be fighting anything better than the last area. Defense. Let's Play The 7th Saga: Episode 3 Part 2. Fortunately though, one of them may also heal the other up for 40 HP if ICE2 takes off a big enough chunk of health, so even though this fight can kill you, you can generally get through it so long as you're careful and show good strategyand don't take a critical at the wrong time. Rumor says Brantu, a historian, found the entrance to Melenam. Wasn't this suppose to be a "highly competent" translation? Anyways, the Chimera's are still fairly tough for your level, so you'll want to go straight to Romus like so No. After Melenam: Did you really find Melenam? I can't imagine the power I might have when I get the Runes. It's like they're corpses, but, still alive enough to feel worry, doomed to this existence for all time unless someone puts them out of their misery Or perhaps Brantu could fix them . I don't know how many times you've been abused by usbut, I promise you, this will be the last time you will ever suffer at our hands. Despite being the final boss of the game and the story building him up as an evil god he's really not that hard. Finally, my wife is happy. Now that's awesome! That's because at the start of every round, the game will decide which targets the monsters will attack. visited. Fortunately, the Potion 2's we have restore 90 HP, so that's fixable. I can't sleep because every night I hear a dog crying at the Castle of Aran. He's got a huge amount of healing and support spells at his disposal, making him quite the useful character. I wish someone would take the Key of Earth away from Romus. Protect, and as you can see, he's really not that impressive. you will see a odd colored section of the wall. Valsu: Let's hope we'll have a pleasant journey! Your experience and years of rigorous training will help you to successfully complete your mission. Spell casting is hard to capture in still images. 2DBD-84AD D5BD-87DD. I believe you all have a general idea of what we're doing next. Lux: Lux is purely mechanical, but also much more human than he might seem, being intelligent, inquisitive, and polite to the point of seeming subservience. This is an Android, a monster that's as strong as Pison and 15 points faster to boot. . Now I can go and buy more tools. But before we jump into that, I wish to talk about a neat little gem of an RPG known as Elnard. 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